Survey Explanation

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate the survey questions that you either received in the mail or downloaded online. The Board made a commitment, after the last Long Range Planning Committee, to survey members on a regular basis and get their input on long range decisions. The Board is planning the next major capital expense and wants your input. The Board still plans to keep the Association as debt free as possible and has made major strides in that effort with an outstanding loan balance of just a little over 500K. However, it is never too early to start planning for the next major expense. 

The three survey questions are:

1.  Are you in favor of additional marinas?  Yes  ___   No  ___

2.  Are you in favor of an additional swimming pool? Yes ___  No ___

3.  Which Bar-K Recreation Center Plan do you most favor?  Pavilion Only ___  Pavilion/Restaurant (open to public) ___  Pavilion/Multipurpose ___

Additional Marinas

The Long Range Planning Committee (LRPC) survey taken in 2007 did not ask "Should new marinas be considered for future capital projects?"  92% of the members who answered the survey did indicate that they wanted to continue having marinas, which ranked only after parks and boat ramps in positive responses from members. To make an informed choice please consider the following information:

ProsCons
  • Currently there are 130 members on the waiting list.
  • Marina costs are paid for by members using the marina. They pay operational costs, financing costs and capital improvements.
  • Once marina loans are satisfied, the marina becomes a positive revenue stream for the Association which helps to keep annual assessments down as well as make other capital improvements to Association properties. 
  • Marinas are for members only and the fees are probably the lowest on the lake.
  • All parks that would house a marina are located in neighborhoods. Experience suggests that the neighbors will resist a marina installation.
  • Initial cost for a 48 slip marina would be approximately $750,000 to $1,000,000
  • Some contend that marinas pollute the lake
  • Marinas require lights for safety and lights affect dark space.

Additional Swimming Pool

The LRPC survey taken in 2007 did not ask "Should additional swimming pools be considered for future capital projects?"  92% of the members who answered the survey did indicate that they wanted to continue having the swimming pool, which ranked only after parks and boat ramps in positive responses from members. An additional informal survey was taken over a period of nine days and targeted only members who used the pool during that time. We received 62 member responses representing approximately 940 usages.  Some of the assumptions are based on that survey and member comments.

The swimming pool capacity is only 40 and the Association's concern is that as the community grows there will be more demand. The City did open a public pool with a capacity of 500 in 2004.

To make an informed choice please consider the following information:

ProsCons
  • Members are generally in favor of an additional swimming pool. 
  • Multiple locations make it more convenient
  • We do not, at this time, have estimates for operational costs. The City has a pool but the operational costs are tied to a requirement to provide life guards. Operational costs could exceed $50,000 per year.
  • Initial cost for an olympic swimming pool is unknown but a guess is  $400,000 with bathhouse and parking.
  • Admission fees are unknown but expected. A guess would be in the range of $30 - $50 per family, per year, depending on operational costs. 
  • Location is also uncertain but the Board has discussed placing the pool either across the street from the Activity Center or behind the K-Oaks on the 17.5 acres. Another possiblity is to purchase additional property for the new swimming pool.
  • Members do not generally expect to pay admission fees.



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